Friday, April 14, 2006

ANDREW WOMMACK


Andrew Wommack says:

"You need a healing? You have a tumor? Don't pray to God about the tumor.
Talk to the tumor itself!"


But the bible says:

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let him pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Why is Andrew Wommack a false teacher?

1) Andrew Wommack is a 5 point arminian who despises the true sovereignty of God and preaches against the doctrines of grace.

2) Andrew Wommack says the biggest false teaching in the body of Christ is 'The sovereignty of God'

3) Andrew believes if you are sick it is all your fault and you are not to pray to God to heal you, but speak to the sickness and cast it away, and if you dont get healed it is because of your unbelief which does not please the Lord.

4) Andrew is a word faith teacher and a huge fan of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Charles Capps etc, 90% of his teachings come directly from these men.

5) Andrew believes that in order to get more money you should actually speak to your wallet and command more money to come your way - this is where the nickname 'name it claim it' - 'blab it grab it' comes from.

6) Andrew teaches decisional regeneration.

Andrew Wrote: "It is assumed that since God is paramount or supreme that nothing can happen without His approval. That is not what the Scriptures teach. In 2 Peter 3:9, Peter said, "The Lord is...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." This clearly states that it is not the Lord's will for anyone to perish, but people are perishing."..Relatively few people are saved compared to the number that are lost. God's will for people concerning salvation is not being accomplished. (Andrew Wommack - The Sovereignty Of God)

Well, This is nothing more and nothing less than blasphemy.

You will see below that Andrew has butchered this verse as he does to so much of God's word in order to make the word of God conform to his heretical teachings.

Let's see what the scripture really says:

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

In Job we read the following:
Job 23:13
But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

Who is the usward? - obviously it's the elect, because Peter is writing to:

2 peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

This video sums up 2 Peter 3:9 very well:

New link coming soon


Reading such heresy does make me wonder what Andrew Wommack does with this verse:


Psalms 65:4 “Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.”

It says above that God causes the one he has chosen to approach him and recieve mercy.

what about this verse?

Psalms 110:3 “Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.”

and this one?

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me;

Jesus said that they SHALL come to him, not maybe but SHALL. You will also see that it is all that the Father gives to him.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

for more verses and a biblical defence of God's irresistible grace towards his elect children please watch the following video:


Below is a link to more articles in defence of the biblical doctrine of God's sovereign irresistible grace.

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/category/irresistible-grace/

It get's even worse:

"This is because the Lord gave us the freedom to choose. He doesn't will anyone into hell. He paid for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2; 1 Tim. 4:10), but we must choose to put our faith in Christ and receive His salvation. People are the ones choosing hell by not choosing Jesus as their Savior. It is the free will of man that damns them, not God.

People virtually have to climb over the roadblocks that God puts in their way to continue on their course to hell. The cross of Christ and the drawing power of the Holy Spirit are obstacles that every sinner encounters. No one will ever stand before God and be able to fault Him for withholding the opportunity to be saved. The Lord woos every person to Him, but we have to cooperate. Ultimately, the Lord simply enforces the consequences of people's own choices.

God has a perfect plan for every person's life (Jer. 29:11), but He doesn't make us walk that path. We are free moral agents with the ability to choose. He has told us what the right choices are (Deut. 30:19), but He doesn't make those choices for us. God gave us the power to control our destinies." (Andrew Wommack - The Sovereignty Of God)

This people, is more blasphemous nonsense.

Here are just a few scriptures on UNCONDITIONAL election. the reason it is called unconditional is because man didn't have to meet a condition in order to be elected, it is by the sovereign good pleasure of God that one was elected from before the foundation of the world.

When 2 mormons knocked on my door last year after first telling them that i didn't want to hear their false gospel or allow them into my home (politely as possible ofcourse) I preached by God's mercy the true gospel to them and one of them said like a typical mormon trying to earn his salvation
"what can i do to be elected?" the answer is there is nothing one can do to get themselves elected or saved. those who believe the gospel have full assurance that they were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world.

(Psalms 65:4) “Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.”

(John 6:37) “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”

(John 6:65) “And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.”

(John 13:18) “I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.”

(John 15:16) “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.”

(John 17:9) “I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.”

(Acts 13:48) “And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

(Romans 9:11-13) “(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

{12} It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

{13} As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.”

(Romans 11:5) “Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.”

(Romans 11:7) “What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded”

(Ephesians 1:3-6) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

{4} According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

(2 Timothy 1:9-10) “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

{10} But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:”

For more verses on election please read the following:

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/category/unconditional-election/

And here is a wonderful video in defence of the biblical doctrone of unconditional election.





The reprobate/non elect perish BECAUSE of their sin - the below is from the Lambeth article of faith and is fully in line with the word of God:

God from eternity has predestined some men to life, and reprobated some to death.

The moving or efficient cause of predestination to life is not the foreseeing of faith, or of perseverance, or of good works, or of anything in the person of the predestinated, but only the will of the good pleasure of God.

There is a determined and certain number of predestined, which cannot be increased or diminished.

Those not predestinated to salvation are inevitably condemned on account of their sins.

My friend asked me about reprobation in response to a question his friend asked him - this was my answer - you will read much scripture.

Romans 11:22
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God"

Men seem to have the idea that they're innocent or deserve some kind of mercy.
this is not the case.

God tells us in Romans 3:8 - that the damnation of the wicked/reprobate is just

2 thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should all believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Acts 14:16
"Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways"

Amos 3:2
"You only (Israel) have I known of all the families of the earth"

Joshua 11:18-20
"Joshua made war a long time with all those kings. There was not a city that made peace with the children of Israel, save the Hivites the inhabitants of Gibeon: all other they took in battle. For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no favor, but that He might destroy them as the LORD commanded Moses".

Proverbs 16:4
"The LORD hath made all things for Himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil".

Romans 9:17
"For the Scripture saith unto Pharoah, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might show My power in thee, and that My name might be declared throughout all the earth."

Exodus 9:15,16
"For now I will stretch out My hand, that I may smite thee and thy people with pestilence; and thou shalt be cut off from the earth. And in every deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to show in thee My power; and that My name may be declared throughout all the earth".

Proverbs 16:1
"The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD"

Proverbs 21:1
"The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water, He turneth it withersoever He will"

Romans 9:18
"Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardeneth."

John 12:37-40
"But though He had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on Him: that the saying of Esaias (Isaiah) the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? Therefore they could not believe because that Esaias said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their hearts that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."

Romans 9:19
"Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth He yet find fault? For who hath resisted His will?"

Romans 9:20
"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"

Romans 9:21-23
"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump, to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had afore prepared unto glory."

Romans 11:7
"What then? That which Israel seeketh for, that he obtained not, but the election obtained it, and the rest were hardened"

1 Thessalonians 5:9
"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ."

what of the reprobate?

1 Peter 2:8
"A Stone of stumbling, and a Rock of offence, even to them who stumble at the Word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed"

2 Peter 2:12
"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption"

Jude 4
"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ"

Revelation 13:8
"And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, every one whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that hath been slain"


It's important to remember also that:

Ecclesiastes 7:29
"God hath made man upright: but they have sought out many inventions"

the below is from A.W Pink's book 'the sovereignty of God' - The unedited edition that Iain Murray and co from the banner of (so called) truth didn't butcher:


God's decree of Reprobation contemplated Adam's race as fallen, sinful, corrupt, guilty. From it God purposed to save a few as the monuments of His Sovereign grace; the others He determined to destroy as the exemplification of His justice and severity. In determining to destroy these others, God did them no wrong. They had already fallen in Adam, their legal representative; they are therefore born with a sinful nature, and in their sins He leaves them. Nor can they complain. This is as they wish; they have no desire for holiness; they love darkness rather than light. Where, then, is there any injustice if God "gives them up to their own heart's lusts" (Psa. 81:12).

Second, the doctrine of Reprobation does not mean that God refuses to save those who earnestly seek salvation. The fact is that the reprobate have no longing for the Saviour: they see in Him no beauty that they should desire Him. They will not come to Christ-why then should God force them to? He turns away none who do come-where then is the injustice of God foredetermining their just doom? None will be punished but for their iniquities; where then is the supposed tyrannical cruelty of the Divine procedure? Remember that God is the Creator of the wicked, not of their wickedness; He is the Author of their being, but not the Infuser of their sin.

Dont confuse the above with arminians seeking God.
Jesus said many will seek to enter but shall not be able.

God does not (as we have been slanderously reported to affirm) compel the wicked to sin, as the rider spurs on an unwilling horse. God only says in effect that awful word, "Let them alone" (Matt. 15:14). He needs only to slacken the reins of providential restraint, and withhold the influence of saving grace, and apostate man will only too soon and too surely, of his own accord, fall by his iniquities. Thus the decree of reprobation neither interferes with the bent of man's own fallen nature, nor serves to render him the less inexcusable.
Third, the decree of Reprobation in nowise conflicts with God's goodness. Though the non-elect are not the objects of His goodness in the same way or to the same extent as the elect are, yet are they not wholly excluded from a participation of it. They enjoy the good things of Providence (temporal blessings) in common with God's own children, and very often to a higher degree. But how do they improve them? Does the (temporal) goodness of God lead them to repent? Nay, verily, they do but despise "His goodness, and forbearance, and longsuffering," and "after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath" (Rom. 2:4, 5). On what righteous ground, then, can they murmur against not being the objects of His benevolence in the endless ages yet to come? Moreover, if it did not clash with God's mercy and kindness to leave the entire body of the fallen angels (2 Peter 2:4) under the guilt of their apostasy still less can it clash with the Divine perfections to leave some of fallen mankind in their sins and punish them for them.
Finally, let us interpose this necessary caution: It is utterly impossible for any of us, during the present life, to ascertain who are among the reprobate.

We must not now so judge any man, no matter how wicked he may be. The vilest sinner, may, for all we know, be included in the election of grace and be one day quickened by the Spirit of grace. Our marching orders are plain, and woe unto us if we disregard them-"Preach the Gospel to every creature." When we have done so our skirts are clear. If men refuse to heed, their blood is on their own heads; nevertheless "we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish. To the one we are a savor of death unto death; and to the other we are a savor of life unto life" (2 Cor. 2:15, 16).

We must now consider a number of passages which are often quoted with the purpose of showing that God has not fitted certain vessels to destruction or ordained certain ones to condemnation. First, we cite Ezekiel 18:31-"Why will ye die, O house of Israel?" On this passage we cannot do better than quote from the comments of Augustus Toplady:-"This is a passage very frequently, but very idly, insisted upon by Arminians, as if it were a hammer which would at one stroke crush the whole fabric to powder. But it so happens that the 'death' here alluded to is neither spiritual nor eternal death: as is abundantly evident from the whole tenor of the chapter.

The death intended by the prophet is a political death; a death of national prosperity, tranquillity, and security. The sense of the question is precisely this: What is it that makes you in love with captivity, banishment, and civil ruin. Abstinence from the worship of images might, as a people, exempt you from these calamities, and once more render you a respectable nation. Are the miseries of public devastation so alluring as to attract your determined pursuit? Why will ye die? die as the house of Israel, and considered as a political body? Thus did the prophet argue the case, at the same time adding-'For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth saith the Lord God, wherefore, turn yourselves, and live ye.' This imports: First, the national captivity of the Jews added nothing to the happiness of God. Second, if the Jews turned from idolatry, and flung away their images, they should not die in a foreign, hostile country, but live peaceably in their own land and enjoy their liberties as an independent people." To the above we may add: political death must be what is in view in Ezekiel 18:31, 32 for the simple but sufficient reason that they were already spiritually dead!

Matthew 25:41 is often quoted to show that God has not fitted certain vessels to destruction- "Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels." This is, in fact, one of the principal verses relied upon to disprove the doctrine of Reprobation. But we submit that the emphatic word here is not "for" but "Devil." This verse (see context) sets forth the severity of the judgment which awaits the lost. In other words, the above Scripture expresses the awfulness of the everlasting fire rather than the subjects of it-if the fire be "prepared for the Devil and his angels" then how intolerable it will be! If the place of eternal torment into which the damned shall be cast is the same as that in which God's arch-enemy will suffer, how dreadful must that place be!

Again: if God has chosen only certain ones to salvation, why are we told that God "now commandeth all men everywhere to repent" (Acts 17:30)? That God commandeth "all men" to repent is but the enforcing of His righteous claims as the moral Governor of the world. How could He do less, seeing that all men everywhere have sinned against Him? Furthermore, that God commandeth all men everywhere to repent argues the universality of creature responsibility. But this Scripture does not declare that it is God's pleasure to "give repentance" (Acts 5:31) everywhere. That the Apostle Paul did not believe God gave repentance to every soul is clear from his words in 2 Timothy 2:25--"In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth."

Again, we are asked, if God has "ordained" only certain ones unto eternal life then why do we read that He "will have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim. 2:4)? The reply is, that the words "all" and "all men," like the term "world," are often used in a general and relative sense. Let the reader carefully examine the following passages: Mark 1:5; John 6:45; 8:2; Acts 21:28; 22:15; 2 Corinthians 3:2, etc., and he will find full proof of our assertion. 1 Timothy 2:4 cannot teach that God wills the salvation of all mankind or otherwise all mankind would be saved-"What His soul desireth even that He doeth" (Job 23:13)!

Again; we are asked, Does not Scripture declare, again and again, that God is no "respecter of persons"? We answer, it certainly does, and God's electing grace proves it. The seven sons of Jesse, though older and physically superior to David, are passed by, while the young shepherd-boy is exalted to Israel's throne. The scribes and lawyers pass unnoticed, and ignorant fishermen are chosen to be the Apostles of the Lamb. Divine truth is hidden from the wise and prudent and is revealed to babes instead. The great majority of the wise and noble are ignored, while the weak, the base, the despised, are called and saved. Harlots and publicans are sweetly compelled to come in to the Gospel feast while self-righteous Pharisees are suffered to perish in their immaculate morality. Truly, God is "no respecter" of persons or He would not have saved me.

That the Doctrine of Reprobation is a "hard saying" to the carnal mind is readily acknowledged-yet, is it any "harder" than that of eternal punishment? That it is clearly taught in Scripture we have sought to demonstrate, and it is not for us to pick and choose from the truths revealed in God's Word. Let those who are inclined to receive those doctrines which commend themselves to their judgment, and who reject those which they cannot fully understand, remember those scathing words of our Lord's, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken" (Luke 24:25): fools because slow of heart; slow of heart, not dull of head!

this doctrine which is so bitterly hated in these last days, when men will no longer "endure sound doctrine"; hated by men of lofty pretentions, but who, notwithstanding their boasted orthodoxy and much advertised piety, are not worthy to unfasten the shoes of the faithful and fearless servants of God of other days.

"O the depth of the riches both of wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! For what hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been His counsellor? or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things: to whom be glory forever, Amen" (Rom. 11:33-36).*

* "Of Him"-His will is the origin of all existence; "through" or "by Him"-He is the Creator and Controller of all; "to Him"-all things promote His glory in their final end.

PLEASE ALSO SEE:

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/predestination-vs-free-will/

Many of you reading this article now are appealing with a "what about John 3:16 - it says God loves everyone and wants to save everyone!!!!!!!"

this verse doesn't say that AT ALL.
in light of the rest of the bible we know it is talking about God's elect, and also it says that one ones believing in Jesus will not perish, we know that only the elect believe the true gospel. 2 verses later, Jesus said this:

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

please also see:

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/2007/03/26/for-god-so-loved-the-world/

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/free-willism-preaches-another-jesus/

http://testallthings.wordpress.com/2007/03/26/the-gospel-vs-arminianism/


I finish with a video by Monty Collier preaching the very heart of the gospel, an efficacious definite atonement for Christ's sheep.





By Chris - Author of Test All Things


48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting your insights here. I have stumbled across this piece on Andrew Wommack twice in the last month. I have forgotten your insight the first time and came back to it again by google.... DD

Jesus' boy said...

Andrew Wommack is VERY DANGEROUS - he preaches a false gospel - you will do well to flee from this man's heretical blasphemous teachings.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot. Andrew Wommack teaches the WHOLE of the Bible. And the Bible says Jesus was the FIRST born of many, not now the ONLY born. You are petty, vicious, a liar and a deceiver, and you haven't got the understanding of a goldfish. Why don't you just keep your mouth shut and your ears open so you can learn something.

Anonymous said...

thank you for creating this homepage. It really confirmed what the holy spirit has already spoken to our heart.
Be blessed by our God Allmighty!

calvinkid4life said...

u r sooo rite!!! andrew womack is a anticrist catholic armenian who hates God. ive seen him on tv and had 2 change the channel cuz he preaches that God luvs and wants evrybody. it clearly says that jacob i luved and esaw i hated. he does not teach the bible but a FLASE GOSPEL........ beware!!

OneLove said...

I love it when people, such as yourself, backup what they believe with scripture. Great work.

Anonymous said...

God is love.

Anonymous said...

Thank you I just had to throw away the NIV with my name on it....all pieces of my name...lol...but I'm very thankful to God that the true believers....that God has chosen are starting to come to light in my life....I just threw away so many teachings...that sounded good but they didn't really help me...If God had no choice then he would not have his purpose....it would just be man choosing what God does instead of God choosing what man does....Praise Jesus forever!!

Anonymous said...

I am a believer in the Lord Jesus, but after coming across your site I must say I am perplexed. How can I know if I am one of God's elect? If I am going to spend eternity in heaven or in hell?
What is an armenian?
Can you help me with these questions?
Thank you!

Anonymous said...

I've watched Andrew's ministry since my salvation in 1992. He always seemed "right on." Until I had an encounter with his "Discouragement Department" most recently. Lately Andrew has been name dropping on his TV show. Kenneth Copeland, Smith Wigglesworth, Kathryn Kuhlman, etc. It was then that I decided to write to this department with my concern that Andrew would be associating himself with these false teachers. It takes one to know one? Anyway, I got an argumentative, defensive, prideful, stubborn response defending Benny Hinn, etc. and "how dare I" judge those that are serving God. I got attacked! Up until this point I had actually been supporting this ministry and then out of this confusion I decided to do a google search on Andrew Wommack +false teacher. Bam! I got your site and total confirmation of what I believed all along. THANK YOU! for your faithfulness in putting forward the effort it took to research and listen to the Lord in exposing AWMI for what they are. Today was confirmation for me. I learned something very important. When there is guilt? There is a fight. Why would you fight if innocent? Jesus didn't. AWMI did.

Anonymous said...

I'm an atheist, but I still agree that this guy is a jackass.

Anonymous said...

When I heard Andrew Wommack's teaching of Assure Your Heart, it woke me up to a much deeper and greater relationship with God. The more I listened to Andrew's God given insight on scripture, the more I grew very rapidly. I have since been healed of Alcohaulism completely, Depression completely, and more and more sin has been dropping from my life daily.

Of course Andrew Wommack did not do this for me, God did this for me through His word, and also through Andrew Wommack as well as other spiritual leaders.

God chose the jews, they were the elect, and yet through their rebellion the gentiles received their inheritance.

Believing that God has specifically chosen people to be His and there is nothing to be done of it, that your salvation is secured despite your choices does not explain Hebrews when Paul speaks of those that fall away from the true gospel.

I am not going to come against anything, but I will say this, Andrew Wommack has sown real fruit in my life in his obedience to God. I love him for it, and I thank God for his commitment.

Paul began persecuting Christ's church much the some way, before he was grafted into Christ's vine and I pray that you will also have a roadside experience with Christ.


God loves you as much as He loves Andrew Wommack and myself.

-Albert

Chris said...

Hi Albert,

The problem that you and Andrew Wommack have is this:

You have the WRONG God.

Repent and believe the gospel!

Chris
Jesus is Lord!

Anonymous said...

Why did Jesus have to die, if he already elected you and some other priviliged souls to go to heaven?

Chris said...

Why Did Christ Die?

According to some people, Christ died to give all a chance of being saved! I do not know that I hate anything more in my soul than to hear that. It makes Jesus Christ so little–that He should do so much, and after all only to get us a chance of being saved.

Why, if a man is set up in business, you see how often it happens that he fails in it; and if man cannot manage the paltry things of time and sense without being insolvent, what will he do with eternal realities?

And if you come a little closer, when God “made man upright” and he had no sinful nature, what did he do with his innocence?

He lost it all! And yet poor presumptuous man has the vanity to think you and I could manage the chance of being saved.

What an insult it is to the Lord Jesus Christ to fix the eternal honor of God upon chance, and that chance to be managed by a poor sinful creature who is tumbling into half a dozen holes every hour of his life! NO, NO. Thanks be to God for immortal realities and certainties.

WHAT IS SAID CONCERNING WHAT CHRIST HAS DONE?:

He has “put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself;” He has “finished transgression and made an end of sin;” He has “redeemed us from all iniquity;” He has “redeemed us from the curse of the law,” from destruction and from the power of the devil; He has “obtained eternal redemption for us;” He has “redeemed us to God.” To the honor of the Eternal Trinity it is said, not that the redeemed shall have a chance, but that the redeemed shall “come to Zion with songs, and everlasting joy shall be upon their heads, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.”

The Lord Jesus Christ has done this “great” work; and He has gone to heaven shouting “Victory,” for “God is gone up with a shout; the Lord with the sound of a trumpet.” He rose from the grave as a demonstrative proof that sin was destroyed, law satisfied, God honored, His people eternally and everlastingly saved. And the immortal honors of God unite in their salvation; therefore, He ever lives at the right hand of the Father to make intercession.

Anonymous said...

I am at the point where i just feel like giving up. I am sitting here with tears rolling down my face. I am Catholic and yes, that i am not doubting but now you speak of predestination, wrong religions, etc.... I can not picture a life without The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit not in it. In essense if somehow (hypothetically) it was proved that they dont exist, it would rip my heart out. I dont even know what religion you are (it seems like 7th day but I am not sure) but I dont know what is right anymore. Jesus said to seek and you will find. I seek him all the time to be baptized in the Holy Spirit yet everytime I watch something (3abn, joyce meyer, andrew wommack, Harold Camping, etc) I get more and more confused. I read the bible every day looking for answers. Now I just feel like Easu (non elect). I feel destroyed.

Chris said...

Hello,

I am NOT seventh day adventist.

Seventh day adventists are members of a cult which leads to hell.

I recommend reading, listening and watching the true gospel material at the following website.

www.SavedByHisBlood.wordpress.com

It seems that nobody has ever truly taught you about the Lord Jesus and what he truly did for his elect people. How that he met all of the conditions for the salvation of his people.

How that the death of Christ DEMANDS and ENSURES the salvation of ALL those whom he represented.

All who believe on the true Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.

They rest in Christ, look to him alone and his finished work on the cross as the only ground for their salvation.

Salvation is conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ ALONE.

Anonymous said...

I am Andrew and Jamie Wommacks ex daughter in-law, and I can tell you first hand the hypocrisies that man teaches with his wife by his side, they profess to know and teach God's love, but bear false witness against their neighbor in court.

Their son Jonathan Peter is currently serving time in El paso county jail for beating me. Thru out my marriage into that family, I confessed to not only Andrew but Jamie about the physical abuse, the emotional blackmail, the pain I was to endure at the hands of their son, whom they are well aware of his violence, he actually put a gun to his own mother's head and burglarized her home, but instead of showing GOD'S unconditional love to me, they blamed me for his actions. Never acknowledging what he was doing, never helping, never offering to take their son aside, knowing that this treatment is not what God would want. Both of their sons have committed acts of domestic violence, and have had to serve time for it. I guess they learned it somewhere, I suppose Andrew taught his sons how to abuse women, and Jamie showed her sons, it was ok to be a battered wife. How very Christ like!!?!?!?!?!

I begged that man and his wife to help me, they instead went against God's word and although they know their son is not a Christian they lie to their ENTIRE ministry that he is a testament of faith, how God raised him from the dead because of some unknown prophecy Andrew has had about his son.

The very statement of faith for employment with AWMI, they bastardize, giving their son Jonathan Peter Wommack, a 4 time felon a position within their ministry. It clearly states ALL EMPLOYEES must carry themselves in a Christ like manner, I guess beating your wife is what Jesus would do and is Christ like.

Their son beat me for 4 years and they turned their backs, in order to continue sucking money from hapless sheep to fund his legal bills and their 40 acre home in Florescent Colorado, while they left their own daughter in law and sister in Christ beaten and ravaged, bruised and torn, to live homeless.

It was with the TRUE GRACE of GOD and his love that I am gainfully employed, with a now Beautiful Home of my own, that I worked for, I don't need to beg money all over the world based on lies and hypocrisy. Jamie stated in court that she didn't agree with what her son had done to me, but she certainly did condone it, by standing up in court and lying, standing in front of myself, God and the law, to act just like Judas, betrayal, hypocrisy and blind foolishness is what Andrew and Jamie Wommack preach to their students, and even though they saw the brute force of his blows, scarring my face to this day, saw my many black eyes, heard my cries for help... I was told to "zip it" Meaning my mouth.

These people are evil and are leading so many down a road for hurt, pain and suffering with their teachings. When it's time to face God I hope they have a really good excuse. If you need any information to help let the public know of the wrongs these people are spreading, just ask.

Anonymous said...

Are you teaching predestination? I am sorry it just sounds like it to me. I had a friend that believed this and basically thought that God chose people before the foundations and that meant you were one of His elect but also that it didn't matter what you did because you were already chosen which I suppose they never read about being blotted out of the Lamb's Book of Life. It's just that some of this is very confusing. Should you pray for unbelievers or are they just automatically considered those who are not a part of God's chosen people? What about backsliding?

Anonymous said...

@ Andrew's ex daughter in law

I do not know when you posted your reply. I hope that it's not an old post and that you check in here again and read my reply.
Please, if you read my reply email me. I need to know for sure that what you said is true. It would be so important to know it. Please email me if you read this:

spiraptikus (at) googlemail.com

Suzanne said...

Hello!

"If you need any information to help let the public know of the wrongs these people are spreading, just ask."

What you shared with us sounds so very sad. Please share more with us on this. I am deeply sadened by this. I have watched Andrew Wommack many times and I never had expected anything like this.

Suzanne

Anonymous said...

O.K.
Everybody thinks that they know what is right and that their interpretation of the Bible is correct. I must say that reading this page has opened my eyes to a few things concerning AWMI. I have a few of his books and agree with some of his teachings; however I have questioned his teachings on Sovereignty and his views on speaking to your sicknesses. I was raised in a very charismatic church and grew up with the Benny Hinn crowd. Over the years the Lord has been showing me errors in such teachers teaching. To hear that Andrew is connected to them is very troubling. Also the post by his ex-daughter-in-law really shocked me. I will check out your links to www.SavedByHisBlood.wordpress.com
By the way, I am glad that you speak out against such cults as Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and 7th day Adventist.
Thanks

Anonymous said...

Disturbing news about andrew wommack especially from his ex daughter in law, Revelation tv and Genesis tv here in England have just started to have these false teachers on their tv programs here in the uk, along with other teachers like the the copelands,benny hinn,morris cerullo and many more...
have you anymore information from his ex daughter in law that i could send to people who i know follow his teachings...
your help would be appreciated,
thanks
signed concerened
england uk

Anonymous said...

I guess we don't need to preach the gospel, send out missionaries or support any religious organizations, because if God already predestined who gets to go to heaven, all the preaching in the world is not going to change that. If you are lucky enough to have been chosen, good for you, and if you are not lucky enough to be chosen, it does not matter what you hear or see, nothing is going to change that. And for that matter, if you are already chosen, you can also do anything that you choose, because you are chosen, and how can you unchoose yourself if God chose you? I guess we can also through out the "silly nonsense" of being saved by grace through faith, because you are saying we are being saved by the luck of the draw and nothing else.

Test All Things said...

You have totally distorted everything that the true christian who holds to salvation by grace believes.

If God the Father has predestined only a limited number to be saved, if God the Son died to redeem only those given to Him by the Father, and if God the Spirit quickens only God’s elect, then what is the use of giving the Gospel to the world at large, and where is the warrant for telling sinners that “Whosever believeth in Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life?”


First, it is of great importance that we should be clear on the Gospel itself. The Gospel is God’s good news concerning Christ, and not concerning sinners, Romans 1:1-3.

It is God’s purpose to proclaim far and wide the truth that His own Son became “obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” The Gospel is God’s witness of the glorious person and work of Christ in having saved sinners by His blood and righteousness.

Second, repentance and forgiveness of sins are to be preached in the name of the Lord Jesus “unto all nations.” In time, the Spirit of God regenerates all that God has chosen to save in Christ, and will cause their path to cross with the faithful Gospel message.

They must hear the Gospel, and believe it, before they can rejoice in the knowledge of sins forgiven at the cross. The Gospel is God’s winnowing fan: it separates the chaff from the wheat, and gathers the latter into the silo.

Third, it is sufficient for us to know that God commands us to preach the Gospel to every creature. It is not for us to reason about the consistency between this and the fact that “few are chosen” It is for us to obey. Those in whom He has revealed Christ in truth will desire to proclaim Him to a lost world, know that God will bless it to the calling out of every one whom He purposed to save from eternity.

Test All Things said...

God summons the elect usually through the preaching of the gospel. Now, Christians do not first learn the identities of the elect, and then proceed to preach the gospel only to them. Rather, they preach the gospel “to all creation,”

and

“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:15-16).

Therefore, whether it is in the form of public oration, private conversation, written literature, or other means, the preaching or presentation of the gospel goes forth to both the elect and the non-elect. The elect will come to faith; the non-elect will either reject the gospel, or produce a temporary and false profession of faith.

Because of this, theologians distinguish between the OUTWARD CALLING and the INWARD CALLING. The outward calling refers to the preaching of the gospel by human beings, and is presented to both the elect and the non-elect. On the other hand, the inward or effectual calling is a work of God accompanying the outward calling to cause the elect to come to faith in Christ.

The preaching of the gospel appears to everyone as an outward calling, but it also comes as an inward summons to the elect. The outward calling is produced by human beings, but the inward calling is solely a work of God and occurs only to the elect. The inward calling is usually concurrent with the outward calling. In other words, many people may hear the gospel in a given situation, but God will cause only the elect to believe what is preached, while he hardens the non-elect against it.

Matthew 22:14 says, “For many are invited, but few are chosen.” The word “invited” in this verse may be translated “called,” as many other translations have it. Many are indeed “invited” in that they hear the outward call of the gospel, but only a few are among God’s elect, and therefore genuine and permanent professions of faith only come from the latter group.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your website. I have referred others trapped in the free will lie to it however
only God can open their eyes and I pray he does. Millions in the contemporary Christian church are led astray by Wommack and others like him.

Anonymous said...

andrew is just a man and a fake at that. i do not listen to his lies.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes, it is the little things that show the wrong fruit.

I was considering his Bible College after watching him for a while. The Holy Spirit intervened!

Andrew could not pronounce "Pi-hahiroth" one day, and my instantaneous first thought was, 'Someone who can't pronounce a word that I can owns and teaches at a college that will indoctrinate me?

Naturally, my second thought was to answer that question.

francis said...

i have just been through 10 months of "womack discipleship" @ Fresh Start Ministries in Winnsboro La. and concur the FACT- this teaching is anti-christ/anti-biblical. The whole thing is satanic as is most teaching today & in opposition to 400 years of protestantism. Luther and Cf.l.alvin would roll over in their graves if there were no heaven

Anonymous said...

To the person three (posts) below me.
I like how you didn't provide any facts to show how this web page is incorrect.

iam said...

I am glad that someone has exposed Andy Wombat for his heresy. My friend and I used to watch his program before work and were shocked at his outrageous teachings. As a calvinist, i was shocked at his rabid attacks on God and His sovereignty. This guy preaches his slop so smoothly it is disgusting. If you get healed of any disease, you got Andy to thank and his teaching gets the credit, but if you dont get healed and stay sick, it is your fault, cause you dont have enough faith. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

Anonymous said...

Andrew Wommack's teaching is so dangerous because he is so subtle. As a new Christian I fell for his teachings and ended up fully indoctrinated in Word of Faith heresy. Thanks to Wommack I ended up at a church run by a friend of his, a degenerate pulpit pimp named Robb Thompson. You would not believe the things that went on at that "church". The only good that came out of it was that the blatant worldliness of Thompson's church really opened my eyes to all the lies being told by Word of Faith teachers like Andrew Wommack.

Anonymous said...

your sooo wrong andrew is a brrrilliant teacher i may only be 14 but i know that your fucking wrong man.:(

Gordon said...

I may only be 43, but I know that bad language is not a fruit of the spirit!

Anonymous said...

Please help, call on Almighty God to open the eyes of my Dad, he follows with a passion all the teaching of AWM. He offered me some cd's and I took them. I prayed and asked the Lord to guide me regarding what was being preached on them. I put one in the deck and listened, I did not hear anything of what was said, I heard that I was to return to His Word and so ejected the cd and gave them all back.

I cannot give my dads name out over the web, but my mother knows that he is being blinded by this mans teachings.

Pray with my that by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ his eyes will be opened to the truth really soon, and that should it be me who has to sit down with him and show him, that the Lords Words will be the one's spoken.

Thank you so much.

David said...

Could someone answer my question which is Is it God's intention to save everyone and some choose to follow him and others don't or is there a chosen elect by God

Anonymous said...

All cults are created due to someone's (special) knowledge. Jesus says to come as a little child. Being childlike means not being analytical. I've had friends that have left their families behind because of some knowledge they had. I have a relatively high IQ but, I am confused after reading the elect etc. I think I Will go back to reading the bible and etc. Besides I just don't like Andrew'ds looks and the way he talks down to people. He's not that smart. Another thing, I've noticed all these socalled preachers are always affiliated with Kenneth Copeland and his cronies. OH MY GOSH HOW CONFUSING. Remember, Eve wanted to know what God knew. It got her into trouble. Knowledge puffs up a man and wisdow comes from the Fear of God

Anonymous said...

if these incredible accusations against wommack's son are true then the truth must come out! i pray that the truth will come out! it simply CANNOT be that he does as if everything is fine and in reality his son is a criminal this is insane.

Anonymous said...

my mom listens to andrew wommack. she has started taking his bible "college" course thing or whatever it is it isn't college that's for sure. and i keep trying to point her to the truth and i have been working really hard to pull her away from that whole word of faith movement junk. i am not very credible to her of course because i am her daughter but i am trying. i have to be as subtle as a serpent, but as gentle as a dove. hard mix to get right.

well, anyways... i just wanted to say that the exposure of these false teachers is what we need. these heretics are the face of christianity. how sickening the thought is that when someone thinks about a christian they are immediately associated to the HWP movement and all of its nonsense.

sooo i was just leaving a comment of encouragement and to tell you to continue to show our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ the true teachings of the word of God. i pray that i am elect and by your fruits it seems as though you are and i hope that one day we will meet in the new earth that God creates....and my husband oh he is awesome he taught me all about augistinianism :D

Anonymous said...

Andrew Wommack- I have only met him once. He stood on stage and claimed he cured my boyfriend at the time of everything??? Kidney stones, back pain.
A year later this boyfriend, throws all 112 lbs of me across the room? I'm scared with head, shoulder, wrist and back injuries. The scares won't last for long. Not for me at least. I don't need Andrew to heal me on stage.

He'll be back in CLT next week because Wommack will be in town. My heart goes out to his daughter inlaw. God Bless her and his grand children

Fasting Minute said...

I too was blinded by AW. Fortunately, the Lord called me to China. Here, away from the influence of AW and his ilk, my eyes have been opened. What a strange, perverted doctrine is preached on so called Christian TV, especially in America.

It indeed looks as if all roads do lead to Rome and to the Jesuits.

Just a word of encouragement, if I, who was practically addicted to AW's false teachings could break free from his Arminian lies, there is stil hope for your loved ones too.

Scott Walker said...

My wife was raised in word faith..please pray for her as well.

Take a look at her parents pastor and who prosperity preaching really benefits.

www.contendingfortruth.blogspot.com

subject:
Keith Moore house

Anonymous said...

When I read this many years ago, I thought whoever wrote this was a nut and Andrew was just the greatest. Boy, was I wrong! My family and I spent over 5 years working for his "ministry" and all we got was being lied about, being demoted for no reason, being denied promotions based on discrimination, and overall complete discouragment! Andrew is a liar and a thief! He is now begging money because he plans to make a COMPOUND in Woodland Park, CO and intends to buy out entire neighborhoods so his cronies (Dave Hardesty, Jim Ertle, etc etc) can have big nice cushie houses on the PARTNER'S dime. Well, I spoke with those poor misled people at the contact center for over 3 years and they mostly all old folks on their last leg just trying to get by and he's telling them to send their last cent! "got a need, plant a seed"?! Puh-lease! If he believed that he'd be sending money to these poor people! He's also completely rude to his employees and even denies jobs and will fired people based on "whistle blowing" (ILLEGAL!) Everything his Ex-DIL said up there is 100% true and Andrew says it's not and that Jonathan Peter is all better, total BS. Thank you for this site, maybe someone will listen (I wish I had!)

Anonymous said...

Hi all.
I stay in Scotland, and have recently came across this teaching. I have listened what this guy has been preaching, and it's total shocking and not of our Lord. I do believe that it is the work of satan. The church we worship in has been growing and in steps this teaching into our local area drawing some away. I have a genuine concern for the people attending and listening this heresy and believing what is being taught.. I listened to some of the teachings online and they distort what the Bible teaches and read one part of a chapter and stop at the part which they can't distort. The most shocking part so far is the fact that they are not conscious of sin, the 10 commandments are not to be bother about, it doesn't matter to pray, read the Bible,fast,and about giving. They preach IF YOU CAN or IF YOU WANT TO.... it's all about love.
Please pray for the people in Lossiemouth that they are not fooled by this false teaching. I have approached several who go, and are friends, and stated to them that what is being preached is not the truth. And I was asked to verify my concerns via scripture (which I did).
I'm praying that they read what I've given to them.

Anonymous said...

Predestination is a very hard nut to crack. But how does backslidding fit into the picture? U explained the aspect of evangelizing,very well....preach to all nations,let God do the sifting. But how do u reconcile these scriptures with predestion: 2Tim2vs21;Jn3vs16-17;Josh24vs15;Deut30vs19-20;etc?

Mark said...

What do the Arminian 'Word of Faith' preachers and atheists have in common? They both deny the sovereignty of God...Reading the little 'Red Book' Marx said man must save himself through the will of humanism implementing socialist maxims by the state. The religious humanists say man must save himself by excersizing his personal 'free will' by appropriating (using) Christ in the matter of salvation.... therefore both paradigms have man determining his own destiny demoting God's will irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

I am very sorry to read about what happened to Wommack's daughter in law. The abuse of women permeates society, even the world, and it is not unknown in Christians or the ministry. I went through a horrific ordeal with an abuser years ago and was blamed by his mother and others for his alcoholism, drug addiction, rage and abuse. Ha!
After I got over the shock of everything that was happening, I told them flat out that he had all of those problems before I came on the scene!
The shock that this was happening at all - from someone I believed loved me and I was wild about him - was probably the worst of it. The emotional impact was worse than the physical actions. And then to have people blaming me for HIS actions! Insane. yes, it was. And, sadly, this happens in our society time and time again.

If Wommack believes what he preaches - that beliefs and words will heal things - he probably imagines they will eventually heal his son. I've met many with such beliefs.

I had to do a lot of Alanon to Accept that I have no control or power over other people. I may have influence, but it is most certainly limited. I am nobody's "god" and I do not believe that God himself seeks to control even his own people. It was extremely humbling for me to accept how little actual "power" I do have on this earth, especially over other people.
So, Wommack seems to have his Denial system - which I don't know is "evil" or simply "sick". It is sad, though, when people in ministry are blind.