Thursday, January 25, 2007

DAVID EELLS





"The trinity came from Catholicism, it didn't come out of the bible by the way, it came from Catholicism."
(David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)

Oh really Mr Eells?

What bible do you read?

Let's see what God's word says:

John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

In the above verse we have God the Son, praying to God the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that HE may abide with you forever, whom we know to be the Holy Spirit.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:8
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
John 16:9
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
John 16:10
Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
John 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
John 16:14
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.
John 16:15
All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.

2 Corinthians 13:14
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen.

Ephesians 4:4
[There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Ephesians 4:5
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Ephesians 4:6
One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The baptist confession of faith 1689 does a very good job of explaining the biblical doctrine of the Holy trinity:

Baptist confession of faith - chapter 2 - God and the Holy Trinity

The Lord our God is the one and only living and true God; Whose subsistence is in and of Himself

- Who is infinite in being and perfection; Whose essence cannot be comprehended by any but Himself;

- Who is a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions

- Who only has immortality

- Who dwells in the light which no man can approach, Who is immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, in every way infinite, most holy, most wise, most free, most absolute;

- Who works all things according to the counsel of His own immutable and most righteous will, for His own glory;

- Who is most loving, gracious, merciful, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth;

- Who forgives iniquity, transgression, and sin;- Who is the rewarder of those who diligently seek Him;

- and Who, at the same time, is most just and terrible in His judgements, hating all sin and Who will by no means clear the guilty. God, having all life, glory, goodness, blessedness, in and from Himself, is unique in being all

- sufficient, both in Himself and to Himself, not standing in need of any creature which He has made, nor deriving any glory from such.

- On the contrary, it is God Who manifests His own glory in them, through them, to them and upon them. He is the only fountain of all being; from Whom, through Whom, and to Whom all things exist and move.

- He has completely sovereign dominion over all creatures, to do through them, for them, or to them whatever He pleases.

- In His sight all things are open and manifest; His knowledge is infinite, infallible, and not dependant on the creature.

- Therefore, nothing is for Him contingent or uncertain.- He is most holy in all His counsels, in all His works, and in all His commands.

- To Him is due from angels and men whatever worship, service, or obedience, they owe as creatures to the Creator, and whatever else He is pleased to require from them.

In this divine and infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word or Son, and the Holy Spirit. All are one in substance, power, and eternity; each having the whole divine essence, yet this essence being undivided.

The Father was not derived from any other being; He was neither brought into being by, nor did He issue from any other being.

- The Son is eternally begotten of the Father.

- The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.

- All three are infinite, without beginning, and are therefore only one God, Who is not to be divided in nature and being, but distinguished by several peculiar relative properties, and also their personal relations.

- This doctrine of the Trinity is the foundation of all our communion with God, and our comfortable dependence on Him.


Now that we have that cleared up, let's move to the next heretical statements of David Eells.

"When I started seeking the Lord about this, the Lord sent a man to me who had also been a oneness and a trinitarian and while I was in the oneness church I was arguing with this brother in a room full of people, some were oneness and some were trinitarian."
(David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)

He then explains what happens during this debate:
"The Lord actually tricked me into deliverance because the thought came into my head and i accepted it, the thought was 'you're not getting anywhere with this guy, what you need to do is set your doctrine down just for a minute and try to look at this thing through his eyes, so you can better understand where he's coming from.
And i tell you, i no sooner did that than a (demon) spirit went right off the top of my head, there was a presence in me that went right out through the top of my head."

(David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)

David then explains how he had renounced his former oneness beliefs and the people in his church were praying for him because thy were of oneness theology.
There was one man in the church by the name of Wayne, he was both praying for and talking against David because he had rejected the oneness doctrine.

David explains:
"This brother was at home, on the carpet in his living room and stretched out on the floor, he said 'Lord, I am praying and asking you Lord, don't let him be decieved, deliver him from that doctrine, don't let him be decieved."
(David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)


Wayne then came to church and told David and some others what had happened while he was praying.



"What happened while he was praying was, he was lying on his carpet with his face on the floor, with his hands out straight, kinda like he was lying on a cross, he said 'David, I don't know what you got, but you got something because i've been praying and the Lord picked me up off the floor, in the air, in the middle of the room, and he said to me, 'I'm teaching him the true relationship of the Father and the Son." And then he set him back down on the carpet."
(David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)



Then Eells claims he was taught the truth from the bible.



what was this apparent truth he was taught?



Let's hear what David said:



"God the Father always existed in eternity, always existed in eternity, but the Son did not, The Son had a beginning. The Father had no beginning, the Son had a beginning." (
David Eells - 8-04-2004, Oneness, Trinity or truth? - Part 1)



That is wholly untrue - Jesus is from everlasting.



JESUS IS UNCREATED



God created the universe and earth by Himself



Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.



Isaiah 44:24
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.



Jesus Christ created the universe and the earth



Hebrews 1:10
Unto the Son he saith…Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.



Colossians 1:16
By him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth…all things were created by him, and for him.



John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.God is the Word.



John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GodJesus is the Word.



John 1:14
…the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us…



God is the first and the last


Isaiah 41:4
I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.



Jesus is the first and the last



Revelation 1:17
Jesus said, “Fear not; I am the first and the last:”



God forgives sins



Psalm 103:2-3
The Lord..forgiveth all thine iniquities…



Mark 2:7
“Who can forgive sins but God only?”



Jesus forgives sins



Mark 2:5
Jesus…said…”Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.”



God is our redeemer



Isaiah 63:16
Thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer..



Jesus redeemed us



Titus 2:13-14
The great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ…gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity..



God is one



Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.



Jesus and God are one



John 10:30
I and my Father are one.



John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…


John 1:3
All things were made by him..


John 1:10
…He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.


John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.



John 14:9
Jesus saith…he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?



1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.




God is the Holy One



Psalms 71:22
I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth,O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.



Psalms 78:41
Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.



Psalms 89:18
For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.



Isaiah 10:20
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.



Psalms 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.



Jesus is the Holy One



Acts 2:27
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.



Acts 3:13-14
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;



Acts 13:34-35
And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.



Only God is worshipped



Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him… Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.



Jesus is worshipped



Matthew 9:18
While [Jesus] spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him…



Hebrews 1:6
And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.



John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto [Jesus], My Lord and my God.



God is Messiah



Isaiah 9:6
…unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder…and his name shall be called… The mighty God, The everlasting Father…



Jesus is Messiah



John 4:25-26
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.



God is from everlasting



Psalms 93:1-2
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.



Jesus is from everlasting



Micah 5:2
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah…out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.



Only God is glorified



Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another…



God glorified Jesus



John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.



John 5:23
All men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.



Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

By Chris - Author of www.TestAllThings.com


3 comments:

a seed sower said...

excellent revealing of truth through scripture..the word of God shall stand forever true!

James Cavallo-King said...

dear saints of the most high God please be very careful about people who come to you contantly telling who Jesus Christ is not. I cannot imagine anyone standing before God almighty and downgrading Our LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ. David Eells' doctrine sounds much like watchtower and oneness combined. I know dear friends and brothers and sisters who play his tapes hours on end and travel miles to see him. The key to learning if a person is right is not if he asks for money or not. Many cult groups do not ask for money. Remember Stewart Trail of the Church of the Bible Understanding. I am now working on a tract against the people who falsely call themselves Jehovah's witnesses. The are witness against Jehovah. We saved born again blood bought Christians are true Jehovah's witnesses. We all know the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS A CULT AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO CALL OURSELVES CHRISTIANS EVEN THOUGH A CULT DOES, SO WHY SHOULD WE BACK DOWN AND ALLOW WAtCHTOWER TO MAKE US RUN FOR COVER. Pastors STOP CALLING EVIL GOOD. IT IS GOOD AND WONDERFUL TO BE JESHOVAH'S WITNESSES . DON'T CALL THESE LIARS A NAME RESERVED FOR US SAVED SAINTS. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL IN THE NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. JEHOVAH IN THE FLESH. PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME FOREVER

Anonymous said...

David Eells You are crazy! How can you say your a christian when all you do is judge people? constantly putting down your family and others for not believing the exact way you do, nuts! you are the reason christians get a bad wrap. Scared the world is going to end? Why are you so scared of death? Maybe its the way you have lived your life...as a lie. You are a disgrace to mankind. Your little cult is ridiculous, aren't you suppose to serve the lord. You are running things as if people are suppose to be serving you. Let me give you a little reality check....YOU ARE NOT GOD! You need to be admitted to a mental institution. Thinking of the way you act and treat people disgusts me. I don't know how you can sleep at night. I think you have really lost sight of the true meaning of faith and having a relationship with the lord. good luck